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UK Legislation for Orphan Works

Thu May 2, 2013, 4:08 AM


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Don’t Let the UK Government remove our rights to our artwork and photography!! This affects every single person who posts images on the internet! Please sign it (if you need to be a UK resident or citizen) and support us!

This is a complete disgrace and has been pushed though without thought or consideration to the artists and photographers whose rights they are taking away, all in the name of economic progress in a bill that has absolutely nothing to do with copyright.

Stop Legalised Theft of Copyrighted Works E-Petition
Orphan Works are not free images E-Petition



Unfortunately the E-Petition is only for UK residents/citizens, however this affects everyone who posts images on the internet, your won't be immune regardless of where you are based, so please pass this along!

:bulletpink: David Baileys Letter to George Osbourne thebppa.wordpress.com/2013/04/…

:bulletpink: News Articles The Register - www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/…; , BBC - www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-…

:bulletpink: Stop43.org.uk site - www.stop43.org.uk/

The Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Act was passed this week, legislating for the commercial use of "orphan works"
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Charmed-Ravenclaw Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
How the hell has this been passed through? What on earth is their definition of an orphan work anyway? And does it affect those outside the UK?
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Elandria Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2013  Professional General Artist
Will affect everyone posting work to the internet since there are no "country boundaries"  They still believe this is the best way forward, all we can do is wait and see.  As far as I'm concerned its deeply flawed before it even goes public.
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georgewjohnson Featured By Owner May 14, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm a UK photographer and this crap has annoyed me for the last few months since they tried this the first time around but it got thrown out. This time they sneaked it in undercover of another bill.

I love the way it's now 100% the opposite the way it was, it used be that worked was protected by default and if they couldn't find you then they had to keep their mitts off. Now they do a single Google search, maybe a quick look through Shutterstock if they can be arsed to and if nothing comes up it's theirs. You don't lose copyright but you they get to cream off profit from your hard work and you get nothing but a royal shafting! Well whoopee-effing-do, I get to keep my copyright! That'll do me sod all good when my livelihood or second income is being flushed down the toilet as the scumbahs get money from my work.

I final kick in the arse from Cameron and his cronies, "It'll help the economy and revitalise the creative industry.". F**K OFF CAMERON! No what it'll do is put money in the pockets of executives of unscrupulous agencies who don't give a rat's arse about creativity, executives who are no doubt some of the mates of our beloved politicians, the ones who were no doubt "encouraged" to push this law through!

Reminds me of what is happening to the game poachers. Once all the animals have been slaughtered, there's nothing left for them to butcher. Same thing will happen to the UK creative industry, we will see a sharp decline in quality work as those savvy creatives pull their work down or only upload very tiny thumbnails and really low quality samples, watermarked to hell that cannot be ripped off which will leave the dodgy agencies ripping off only the real dregs that are left for them to steal.

As you can tell I find the whole thing utterly sickening and typical of the sort of people who have never so much as doodled on a piece of paper let alone poured their heart an soul into creative work.
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 14, 2013  Professional General Artist
All we can do is hope that somebody can make whoever it is that makes the next part of the legislation see sense. :(
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georgewjohnson Featured By Owner May 14, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
We keep filling in the petitions and write to our MPs, maybe if enough weight is applied we can make a change to this awful law. This doesn't just affect a small group of us, it's everyone from the Instagram mobile snapper to the top-of-their-game professional. Hopefully if more well known people like David Bailey speak out we can make a difference.
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 15, 2013  Professional General Artist
Fingers crossed!
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Le-Regard-des-Elfes Featured By Owner May 13, 2013   Digital Artist
I found this petition only for British citizen: "Stop Legalised Theft of Copyrighted Works" [link]
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Birdsatalcatraz Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I signed, thanks for the link x
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yep, as its UK legislation unfortunately you have to be a British citizen to sign it - even though it will affect everyone :(
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WorldBuilding Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Professional Writer
I thought the whole Copyright on Orphaned works was passed years ago or was that just in America?

All I can say is it seems to be another example of how Cameron believes he's running a dictatorship and not democracy. This government seems to have a fetish for passing big bills under the radar.
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yer its been going on since around 2005, its only this year however that the UK government have started including specifically related legislation that pertaining to "orphan works" Nobody is really sure yet just what the results will be, and how much work will be ultimately affected - especially given that the exact terminology and requirements related to this new legislation have yet to be made public.
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diogenes-von-wien Featured By Owner May 12, 2013
Does this really mean that corporations are actually allowed to steal your work? Or does it just sound the way?
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Pretty much if they say they have dine a "reasonable search" for the owner.
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diogenes-von-wien Featured By Owner May 12, 2013
Which means "none at all" for them :(
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GrannyOgg Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thing is with UK Laws - you can sign a petition, source the white paper, demonstrate outside of No.10, Join a protest group, register your disapproval on media websites, pull your hair out, shave your head and go on a hunger strike and NOBODY in government will take any notice. They've got spin doctors and media consultants who can make ANYTHING look like it's for the common good. What it needs in my humble opinion is an expensive copyright suit (once the law is passed) from some one big and full media coverage of the case . Then and only then will the law get reformed cos you can bet your bottom it's going to be a big money spinner for lawyers and solicitors.
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Elandria Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
No doubt if this goes ahead the US will file suits against the UK, as they have already threatened to do :/ Sucks though. The petition is going really well, last time I checked it was around 25k signatures
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Snowys-stock Featured By Owner May 6, 2013
I was told about this maybe a week ago? I can't really remember by my friend ~Chikrata i did not believe him at first but when it came on the news i was shocked but i was more shocked by how no one seemed to know about this talk about sneaky!
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 6, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yerr, the act its part of really has nothing to do with copyright law. Its mental.
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TheLastHuzzah Featured By Owner May 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Signed both :heart:
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
:hug:
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner May 6, 2013  Professional Photographer
Damn - not a resident anymore!
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
:/
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Professional Photographer
:(
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GeminiArtNStock Featured By Owner May 4, 2013   Digital Artist
I signed that Stop Legalised Theft e-petition
seems our UK government likes taking away every basic right that we have
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
Brilliant thanks!
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GeminiArtNStock Featured By Owner May 11, 2013   Digital Artist
you are most welcome
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TheOwl68 Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Directed here by ~RockStocks. Unsettling news at the very least.
Thank you for all of the links, I have read the BBC's report which seemed easiest for me to understand. It appears that this act/law will apply to any images, photographs or other, which cannot be sourced back to the original artist(s) and it looks like a key aspect of this entails the artist's photo or image losing it's metadata in the uploading process.

Does anyone here know if metadata is lost when uploading to DA? Please respond if you do; it will help all concerned about this act/law. Also, are there any known tutorials on how to make sure your photo and/or image has the correct metadata before uploading, and how to check if it's still there after uploading, to any online site.

I will have to read through more of this law/act to understand it better, but it does seem like it was put in place in an unnecessary rush without enough thought.
I will do what I can to spread the word, even though I'm unable to sign the petition and will save this to my favorites as well.

Thanks again & good luck. To us all.
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MeredithDillman Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I think DA and flickr keep it but most non art related sites don't seem to.
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TheOwl68 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, that looks like the case :hmm:
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
DA keeps any metadata that is attached to the image - manually added or auto added by the camera, so if you have editing/imaging software theres a good chance you can add copyright details to your images. If metadata is available with a file on DA you can usually find it right at the bottom of the right hand side menu on the deviation page, and usually displays things like camera make etc :) (Facebook I know for sure strips metadata when you submit anything there)

I posted an EXIF data tutorial a while back, [link] its probably out of date but it will show you the basics :)

We are pretty much hoping that this bit of sneeky legislation might still be written out or amended :/ Will just have to wait and see.
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TheOwl68 Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, written out would be better as there seems to be too much of a *gray area* with some key aspects of this legislation. I've not yet had a browse online, but I'm almost positive that this has already gone global several times over, so artists around the world will be pushing their own governments *not* to follow suit.

Thank you so much for the link on EXIF data, it's very much appreciated. I am now making sure that I include metadata via the 'File Info...' option in Photoshop Elements 10.

I support you guys & gals 110% and will continue to help in whatever ways that I can :heart:
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 3, 2013   Traditional Artist
I'm, not a UK resident or citizen so I don't thin they'd take any thing from me seriously but I really hope you guys can stop this, it's awful...
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yup, thanks for at least taking the time to look it though!
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Kaylied-Estal Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just been and signed it :)
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Cool :)
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mizdestiny Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
petitions signed
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
:thumbsup: Thanks!!
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Sgt-Sahara Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Goodness me, what have they done to us. Wasting no time signing both of those, that's horrible :S
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you!
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
But taking the berne convention in concideration... Is it even possible for one country to get a law that makes free photos of orphan work? That would be directly conflicting to what was setteled via the Berne Convention O_O This is just... rubbish. Or something :/
Heck, I wish I was a UK citizen so I could somehow sign that...
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yep, essentially they are kinda saying, "all the interwebs belongs to us now" The US photography community have already threatened legal action etc if this goes ahead.
Its ultimately people in an office somewhere trying to find ways to tap the internet to make money for the government without actually understanding any of the fundamentals of pre existing copyright laws, moral rights and the Berne Convention. How these people actually run our country is beyond me.
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Vosyl Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
This is coming from the Government that when told that people in Social Housing will be evicted due to the Bedroom tax, that they can rent out their counsel-owned property. Unaware that this is classed as 'subletting' and illegal.

The same government, who's idea of a "Back to work" program was ruled to be 'Legalized Slavery' by the courts.

The same government who's grasp on statistics is lambasted hours later after any publication. "800'000 'fit for work' claiming sick pay", the DWP Adviser declared then said he could live off £17 a week.

The European Union refuses to deal with this government, grant any concession or even talk to the PM as David Cameron was quoted by Merkel "Yesterday's Man." I Just want to Highlight how backwards the government is, it's level of incompetence and detachment from reality is absurd and chilling. This is a Government that *Does not know it's own legal system*.
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Elandria Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thats them! :)
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Colourize-Stock Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
But surely it can't possible go through, right? Or rather, it shouldn't be possible to get a law that directly conflicts with such basic things and pre existing laws. I can imagine that there are plenty of organizations etc that will be ready to take legal actions. It's just such a stupid thing to do that it amazes me. Because really, even watermarks and signatures are deleted from photos on daily basis by others than the copyright holder him/herself. Does that turn them infor "free photos" according to that soon-to-be law?:/
Well, I'll at least try to spread the word around and see if there are some UK citizens that might be able to sign it.
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Elandria Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yep, its complete nonsense, and shouldn't have ever got this far. You are right, Facebook strips off any metadata attached to images posted to the site - creating hundreds of thousands of "orphans" every day, and any image thats been "borrowed" and posted on another website with no contact details of the creator is an "orphan" as well - even though the artist/photographer/creator is very much alive, and their work very much copyrighted.
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Slug22 Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
Passed the petition on to family and friends... Maybe residents of other countries can create petitions to their governments to put pressure on UK, nothing sways a government more than political pressure from abroad ;) also I would recommend that anyone with any dormant facebook or similar account to beware. This unfortunately could be the end of my stock career as it seems we would have to register each work one by one and at a cost or on the other hand it may not ;)... Does the DA copyright symbol still hold any legality for UK residents? ie because it is copyrighted in the USA is my art safe... is it deemed duly registered?
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Elandria Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yep it works as a very visual deterrent, and identifier no matter what country you are in :nod: Its far harder for people to strip out a watermark than it is to strip off EXIF data :)

Thanks for passing the info on!
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Deena-Lee-Sauve Featured By Owner May 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
[link] Shared Here.
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Elandria Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
Cheers!
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Deena-Lee-Sauve Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D
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